Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 17

04/03/2006 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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Moved HCS CSSB 298(L&C) Out of Committee
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Heard & Held
SB 298-TRUSTS: CHALLENGES; CLAIMS; LIABILITIES                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be CS  FOR SENATE BILL  NO. 298(JUD),  "An Act relating  to loans                                                               
from trust  property; relating  to a  trustee's power  to appoint                                                               
the  principal  of   a  trust  to  another   trust;  relating  to                                                               
challenges  to,  claims  against, and  liabilities  of  trustees,                                                               
beneficiaries,  and  creditors  of   trusts  and  of  trusts  and                                                               
estates; relating  to individual  retirement accounts  and plans;                                                               
relating  to  certain  trusts  in  divorce  and  dissolutions  of                                                               
marriage situations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:27:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  RALPH   SEEKINS,  Alaska  State   Legislature,  Sponsor,                                                               
explained  that SB  298 is  an improvement  to the  current trust                                                               
system in the  state.  He said that, since  1997, the legislature                                                               
has  worked with  individuals  who  are active  in  the field  to                                                               
update and improve the laws  regarding the use and administration                                                               
of  trusts.   As a  result, Alaska  is one  of the  premier trust                                                               
jurisdictions in  the country.   However,  he said,  other states                                                               
have enacted similar  legislation in an attempt  to take business                                                               
away from  Alaska.  He said  that the updates proposed  in SB 298                                                               
are intended to  help preserve the state's leading  position as a                                                               
trust  provider.    In  addition, he  said,  the  laws  encourage                                                               
Alaskans to  keep their  trust assets in  the state,  and attract                                                               
capital from all over the  country, which creates greater job and                                                               
investment  opportunities  for  residents   of  the  state.    In                                                               
conclusion, he  said, SB 298  clarifies prior  trust legislation,                                                               
making  the  administration of  trusts  more  efficient and  cost                                                               
effective, which  would help maintain Alaska  as the jurisdiction                                                               
of choice.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:30:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON opined that SB  298 is "timely," and surmised that                                                               
the  law would  need to  be updated  every two  years due  to the                                                               
growth of the field.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:30:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK A.  AMES began  by highlighting the  six published  goals of                                                               
Alaska's state historic  preservation plan.  He  then pointed out                                                               
the  claimant  of  interest  in  the May  1,  1968,  trust.    He                                                               
continued by stating  that there are premises within  the City of                                                               
Fairbanks  "that a  trust, with  regard to  the state  of Alaska,                                                               
regarding  federal  reserve  lands,   ...  has  been  abused  and                                                               
violated."   He  said that  [SB  298] does  not include  adequate                                                               
protection from  this.  He stated  that he is a  claimant and has                                                               
requested full  investigation into the aforementioned  trust.  He                                                               
expressed his belief  that there was a violation  of Sections 1-2                                                               
of the  constitution.   In conclusion, he  said that  [the state]                                                               
needs to ensure that its current trusts are not being violated.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:34:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH  CHAPMAN, Attorney  at Law,  Faulkner  Banfield, PC,  stated                                                               
that  she  has  been  practicing  law in  Juneau  for  18  years,                                                               
focusing  on trusts  and estates.   She  said that  she currently                                                               
represents  individual families,  along with  trustees and  trust                                                               
beneficiaries.    She  expressed  her belief  that  SB  298  will                                                               
provide  the tools  needed to  assist clients  with their  estate                                                               
planning   goals.     She  said   that  this   includes  reducing                                                               
administrative  costs and  aligning the  trust and  probate laws.                                                               
Referring to Section  2 of the bill, she said  that families need                                                               
the ability to respond to  changes in circumstance.  This portion                                                               
of the  bill would allow the  trustee to continue to  hold assets                                                               
in  trust, with  the same  standards; however,  they do  not need                                                               
court approval to do  so.  Moving on to Section  3, she said that                                                               
this section relates  to the statute of  limitations, reducing it                                                               
from three to one statute of  limitations per report.  She stated                                                               
that the  beneficiaries must be  notified by the trustees  of the                                                               
length of  the statute of  limitations and informed of  what they                                                               
must do to assert their claims.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG, referring to  Section 2, asked for the                                                               
reasoning behind  changing "absolute discretion"  to "authority,"                                                               
and "discretion" to "authority."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAPMAN  replied that  under  current  law, no  standard  is                                                               
needed and  only a trustee  with "absolute authority" is  able to                                                               
create a new trust for the  benefit of the beneficiary.  She said                                                               
that  a "typical  standard"  in a  trust states  that  it can  be                                                               
invaded for the  beneficiary's health or education.   This change                                                               
would allow a trust with this  standard to create a new trust for                                                               
the  beneficiary,  as  long as  the  aforementioned  standard  is                                                               
maintained.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG,  referring to  page 2, line  10, asked                                                               
for the definition of "inter vivos."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHAPMAN answered that this means "during life."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS BLATTMACHR, President and  Chief Executive Officer (CEO),                                                               
Alaska Trust Company, began by noting  his support of SB 298.  He                                                               
opined that it  will "modernize" the state's trust  laws and keep                                                               
the state competitive.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:39:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG, referring  to [pages  3-4], Section  7,                                                               
noted  that  the statute  of  limitations  on  a claim  is  being                                                               
changed from 24 months  to 6 months.  He asked if  this is due to                                                               
the  competitive nature  of  the business  and/or  a policy  call                                                               
regarding the statute of limitation policy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLATTMACHR replied that both of  these are involved.  He said                                                               
that the  majority of the  professional community wanted  to make                                                               
the timelines  more consistent.   In addition, he  said, reducing                                                               
the time [to] six months, along  with a "bold" print, would cause                                                               
the  beneficiary to  "have more  of  [an] urgency"  in taking  an                                                               
action if a problem was detected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG, referring  to Section  6, noted  that                                                               
the timeline for a claim has been reduced from 90 to 60 days.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR said  that this  is consistent  with the  probate                                                               
code, as is the change from 60 to 45 days.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:40:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG,  referring to [Section 8],  asked if the                                                               
notification required  is judicial  notification.  He  noted that                                                               
this is  a significant difference  in the amount of  time allowed                                                               
for filing a claim.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:41:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MITCHELL GANS,  Law Professor, Hofstra University  School of Law,                                                               
in  regard  to the  statute  of  limitations, said  that  Florida                                                               
currently uses  the six  month timeframe.   He  said that  from a                                                               
policy  perspective,  it  is  more  appropriate  to  shorten  the                                                               
statute of limitations.  He  explained that a trustee can shorten                                                               
the amount  of time  he/she is liable  by "commencing  a judicial                                                               
accounting."  This,  however, involves an expense  which is borne                                                               
by  the  beneficiary  of  the  trust.   He  characterized  it  as                                                               
inefficient and inequitable.  He  said that a judicial accounting                                                               
results  in  a  shorter  statute, while  an  informal  accounting                                                               
results in a much longer statute,  and added that he does not see                                                               
a  "good  reason"  for  this.   Finally,  a  shorter  statute  of                                                               
limitations is more likely to  result in the beneficiary focusing                                                               
more carefully  on his/her  rights.  He  said that  these reasons                                                               
show that the [six-month] timeframe is a "very good idea."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID SHAFTEL, Estate Planning Attorney,  Law Offices of David G.                                                               
Shaftel, PC,  informed the committee  that he is involved  with a                                                               
group of individuals  that has worked with  the legislature since                                                               
1997 regarding the state's trust  statutes.  He mentioned that he                                                               
assisted drafting  several sections  of SB  298, and  offered his                                                               
belief  that   [SB  298]  contains  provisions   that  are  "very                                                               
helpful," for residents of the  state.  In addition, nonresidents                                                               
who  are using  Alaska law  for their  estate planning  will also                                                               
benefit  from this  legislation.   In  regard to  the statute  of                                                               
limitations,  he  stated  that  the  uniform  probate  code  also                                                               
provides  for  a  process  which   has  a  six-month  statute  of                                                               
limitations.  He said that he supports SB 298.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  what  kind  of  impact  previous                                                               
changes have  had on Mr.  Shaftel's business, and on  the "Alaska                                                               
Trust business" in general.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAFTEL said:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     For  example:    the ...  optional  community  property                                                                    
     system, which the legislature  has enacted; the ability                                                                    
     to  extend [a]  trust's  duration for  as  long as  the                                                                    
     trusts have  assets; the ability to  create trusts that                                                                    
     will  be  able  to   allow  Alaska  residents  to  save                                                                    
     considerable estate taxes  and allow other nonresidents                                                                    
     to use  those kinds  of trusts;  [these] have  ... been                                                                    
     very, very  beneficial to my  clients.  ... We  use all                                                                    
     of  [the  aforementioned  benefits]   for  all  of  our                                                                    
     clients.     Our  clients  at  our   practice  here  in                                                                    
     Anchorage  are medium  to large  estates  and ...  have                                                                    
     lived here in Anchorage for a  long time.  ... They are                                                                    
     very  appreciative of  being able  to do  this kind  of                                                                    
     planning.     So,  it's  been  a   great  benefit  ....                                                                    
     Indirectly, ...  there are  ... four  institutions here                                                                    
     in  Anchorage which  provide ...  trustee services  for                                                                    
     these kinds of  trusts, and I know that  there's been a                                                                    
     very substantial use of these vehicles.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:48:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAFTEL  went on  to say  that in  addition to  in-state use,                                                               
many  out-of-state  individuals   are  using  Alaska's  financial                                                               
resources.   He opined that this  can "only be good"  in terms of                                                               
developing the state as a financial center.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:48:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  THWAITES, Chairman  of  the Alaska  Trust Company,  said                                                               
that he is in support of SB 298.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THWAITES,  in response  to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Rokeberg, said that many of  his clients have found the statutory                                                               
provisions  useful.   In particular,  he said,  his clients  have                                                               
used the optional community property act.   He gave an example of                                                               
a client whose spouse passed away,  resulting in a step-up in tax                                                               
basis for the surviving spouse.   He said that the aforementioned                                                               
client was able  to save over $1 million in  savings on the state                                                               
tax, which  would have  otherwise fallen to  the children  of the                                                               
family.    He  added  that,   regarding  income  tax,  there  was                                                               
considerable savings between the death of the mother and father.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THWAITES  went on to  say that  the Alaska Trust  Company has                                                               
had 1,000 or  more trusts, 10 percent of which  are in-state.  He                                                               
said that  at least  $2 million  has gone  to the  state treasury                                                               
from  the increased  premium tax.   In  addition, jobs  have been                                                               
provided to residents of the state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GUTTENBERG  asked   if   the   ability  of   the                                                               
legislature to be proactive has kept Alaska "ahead of the wave."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THWAITES  replied  yes,  adding  that  the  legislature  has                                                               
developed a "very good" rapport  with practitioners in the state.                                                               
He noted that while it took  Alaska [4 years] to pass the initial                                                               
legislation, Delaware was able, in 16  weeks, to pass an act that                                                               
mimics the Alaska  statutes.  He explained that  the Delaware act                                                               
stated  that  it was  "an  effort  to  copy the  Alaska  statutes                                                               
recently  enacted to  keep Delaware  the number  one in  trusts."                                                               
However,   the  aforementioned   legislation   did  not   include                                                               
provisions considered "crucial" by  the Internal Revenue Service.                                                               
This discrepancy allowed  Alaska to stay ahead in this  area.  He                                                               
said "Clearly, the ... legislature  in Juneau has ... facilitated                                                               
that with their ... willingness  to listen to these modifications                                                               
as we go through."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG said  that he was "pleased  to hear" that                                                               
the state received $2 million  in premium tax insurance receipts.                                                               
He reminded  the committee that  this was due to  the legislature                                                               
limiting the  tax on  the [trust  industry], which  increased the                                                               
investment  in  the state.    He  opined  that  this is  a  "good                                                               
exercise" that should be kept in mind.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG moved  to  report CSSB  298(JUD) out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSSB  298(JUD)  was                                                               
reported from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[The committee returns to SB 298 later in the meeting.]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:54:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 298-TRUSTS: CHALLENGES; CLAIMS; LIABILITIES                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON returned the committee's  attention to SB 298.  He                                                               
explained that  the bill  was moved from  committee prior  to the                                                               
adoption of a committee substitute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:00:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG made a motion  to rescind the committee's                                                               
action  in  reporting CSSB  298(JUD)  from  the House  Labor  and                                                               
Commerce  Standing Committee.    There being  no objection,  CSSB
298(JUD) was back before the committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG moved to adopt  HCS CSSB 298, Version 24-                                                               
LS1113\S,  Bannister, 3/31/06,  as the  working document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version S was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG requested  a  brief  explanation of  the                                                               
changes made by Version S.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN  HOVE,  Staff  to  Senator   Ralph  Seekins,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  speaking on  behalf  of  Senator Seekins,  sponsor,                                                               
explained that on page 2, line  20, of Version S "beneficiary" is                                                               
changed to "beneficiaries."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG moved  to report  HCS CSSB  298, Version                                                               
24-LS1113\S,   Bannister,   3/31/06,   out  of   committee   with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection,  HCS CSSB  298(L&C) was  reported from                                                               
the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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